Mamma's Murli - gyan-sitar-18

⁰29/4/1959

⁰29/04/1959

¹yaad ka aadhaar gyaan hai, saakshaatkaar nahin

¹The basis of remembrance is knowledge, not visions.

²Om shanti.

²abhi ham aatmaon ko paramatma ke dvaara paroksha aur aproksha saakshaatkaar hota ja raha hai।

³Now we souls have visions from God directly and indirectly.

³apni aatma ke svadarshan - chakra ka pata padta ja raha hai।

⁴We now know about the discus of self-realisation of the soul.

⁴aatma ke pate ke saath, paramatma ka bhi pata aa jaata hai।

⁵Together with knowing the soul, we also know God.

⁵isko kaha jaata hai aatma ko sva ka saakshaatkaar।

⁶1his is known as the vision of the self, the soul.

⁶yeh hai chakra।

⁷aatma aadi-madhya-ant ka chakra kaise lagaati hai, woh knowledge se bhi jaante aur saakshaatkaar dvaara bhi।

⁷We have the understanding through knowledge and also through visions how the soul goes through the beginning, the middle and the end of the cycle.

⁸jo anubhvi hain woh kah sakte hain – knowledge se jaan sakte hain ki aatma kaise apna chakra lagaati hai।

⁸Those who are experienced can say that through knowledge they can understand how the soul goes through its cycle.

⁹bhal saakshaatkaar ho bhi parantu knowledge nahin hai to saakshaatkaar koi kaam ka nahin hai।

⁹Even if someone does have visions, because they do not have any knowledge the visions are of no use.

¹⁰mukhya hai knowledge par।

¹⁰Everything depends on knowledge.

¹¹isliye yeh aash bhi nahin rakhna ki jab saakshaatkaar ho tab ham lakshya ko pakad saken ।

¹¹This is why you must not even have the thought that only when you have a vision can you catch hold of your aim.

¹²yaad ka tailuk gyaan se hai।

¹²Remembrance is connected with knowledge.

¹³gyaan se hi ham unke saare karttavya ko jaante hain।

¹³It is only through knowledge that we know everything about the acts of God.

¹⁴to ham jaanne se hi yaad kar sakte hain।

¹⁴Only when we know this are we able to remember Him.

¹⁵aise nahin, sirf saakshaatkaar mein dekhkar us moorta ka dhyaan karna hai।

¹⁵It isn't that we just have to have a vision and then have yoga with that image.

¹⁶uski buddhi mein knowledge chaahiye ।

¹⁶We need kmowledge of Him in the intellect.

¹⁷jitna aatma-paramatma ki knowledge poora buddhi mein baithti jaayegi utna yaad svatah rahegi ।

¹⁷The more oomplete lmowledge about tre soul and God there is in the intellect, tre more automatic His remembrance will be.

¹⁸dekhne ka aadhaar yaad se nahin hai।

¹⁸Having visions is not connnected with knowledge.

¹⁹dhyaan lagaane ki baat nahin।

¹⁹It is not a question of going into trance.

²⁰jitna knowledge buddhi mein ghoomegi utna woh yaad kheenchegi।

²⁰The more lmowledge is retained in the intellect, tre more that remembrance will pull you.

²¹dhyaan mein jaane ki baat hi nahin।

²¹It isn't a questioo of going into trance.

²²saara svadarshan - chakra ghumaana hai।

²²You have to spin the entire discus of self-realisation.

²³aatma ko apna knowledge bhi rehta hai, paramatma ka bhi karttavya, occupation buddhi mein rehta hai।

²³The soul has in the intellect the kmowledge of the self and also of the acts and occupation of God.

²⁴to yeh hai hi buddhiyog ।

²⁴So this is yoga of the intellect.

²⁵jitni knowledge ki dhaarna utna yaad ki sthiti kaayam rahegi।

²⁵The mere you imbibe lmowledge, the more you will be able to maintain a stage of remembrance.

²⁶bigar knowledge sirf dekhne se kuchh nahin hoga।

²⁶Without knowledge, just having visions, nothing happens.

²⁷bahuton ko rehta hai – ham jyotirbindu paramatma ka saakshaatkaar karen to buddhiyog mein sahaj baithega ।

²⁷Many people wish to have a vision of God, the point of light, and say that they would then be able to have yoga of the intellect easily.

²⁸ham jaante hain - woh hamaara baap, teacher, guru hai।

²⁸But we know that He is our Father, Teacher and Guru.

²⁹unke karttavya sahit saara occupation hamaari buddhi mein hai ।

²⁹We have knowledge about His occupation and His acts in our intellect.

³⁰yeh knowledge nahin hogi to yaad rahegi nahin ।

³⁰If we do not have this knowledge, we cannot remember Him.

³¹saakshaatkaar se connection nahin।

³¹This is not connected with visions.

³²mukhya hai gyaan ।

³²The main thing is knowledge.

³³yaad athva yog bhi tab badhta hai jab knowledge buddhi mein ghoomti hai।

³³Remembrance, that is, yoga, only increases when the knowledge spins in the intellect.

³⁴knowledge buddhi mein hai to yaad kheenchati rahegi।

³⁴If there is knowledge in the intellect then there will be a pull to remembrance.

³⁵yaad ko kheenchana hai knowledge ki taakat se ।

³⁵You have to increase remembrance with the strength of knowledge.

³⁶saara raaj buddhi mein ghoomta rahega ।

³⁶The entire significance will spin in the intellect.

³⁷usko hi svadarshan chakra kaha jaata hai ।

³⁷This is known as the discus of self-realisation.

³⁸knowledge se hi yeh chakra ghoomega ।

³⁸This discus will only spin with knowledge.

³⁹tailak iska hai hi knowledge se ।

³⁹This is connected only with knowledge.

⁴⁰tab aatma-paramatma ka saakshaatkaar ho hi jaata hai।

⁴⁰Then you have a vision of the soul and God.

⁴¹to saara madaar hai gyaan par।

⁴¹So everything depends on knowledge.

⁴²bhal saakshaatkaar hota hai, theek hai, parantu koi jaruri nahin।

⁴²If someone does have visions, it is good, but it is not essential.

⁴³hamaari unnati gyaan aur yog se hoti hai।

⁴³We only progress through knowledge and yoga.

⁴⁴hamaare paas poori knowledge hai।

⁴⁴We have the entire knowledge.

⁴⁵samajh na hone se woh cheej jaise dekhi na dekhi।

⁴⁵When we do not understand, seeing something is the same as not seeing it.

⁴⁶hamko soorat par dhyaan nahin lagaana hai।

⁴⁶We do not have to have yoga with any images.

⁴⁷unki yaad mein knowledge ki hi darkaar rehti hai।

⁴⁷We only need knowledge to remember Him.

⁴⁸buddhi unke saath jutaani hai jo gyaan ka saagar hai।

⁴⁸You have to connect the intellect with the One who is the Ocean of Knowledge.

⁴⁹kaha hi jaata hai buddhiyog ।

⁴⁹This is known as yoga of the intellect.

⁵⁰Achcha.